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 By Bertrand Tungandame Published on Friday, March 23, 2018 – 17:31

Duration 15 min 43 sec
‘A lot of our men are behind the eight ball in matters like domestic violence and high alcohol consumption. The only way some men understand the law is when they breach it and they find themselves in jail’ Ken Lecthleiner Pangarte
Interview with Ken Lechleitner Pangarte

Kurruna Mwarre Ingkintja–Good Spirit Men’s Place Research Project finished research inquiries earlier last month and delivered its final report in Alice Springs.The five year project saw CASSE (Creating A Safe Supportive Environment) partner with the Central Australian Aboriginal Congress (CAAC) to design a best practice Aboriginal male’s place around the concept of a men’s shed.Research officer Ken Lechleitner Pangarte says the project is unlike mainstream men’s sheds. ‘The Good Spirit Men’s project is a type of men’s shed designed around the need to develop Aboriginal men. A lot of our men are behind the eight ball in matters like domestic violence and high alcohol consumption.

The only way some men understand the law is when they breach it and they find themselves in jail.’

Ken with men involved with the project and Blokes on Track Aboriginal Corporation (BOTAC)

Ken with men involved with the project and Blokes on Track Aboriginal Corporation (BOTAC)

Participants in the project say that policing in conjunction with tough-on-crime policies is counterproductive when dealing with complex issues involving Aboriginal men.

Aboriginal men can be perpetrators as well as witnesses or victims of domestic violence themselves.

Their voices are rarely heard in the existing range of measures available to address complex issues including domestic violence and alcohol abuse.

The report also found that often many of the laws and other mechanisms that govern Aboriginal men’s lives are communicated to them in a language that they do not understand.

“They want to create a grass roots development of men; teaching men how to be men and learn to hunt and gather in this modern world through creating employment opportunity”.

A key component of the report is the “Talking Powerfully from the Heart” section which is a compilation of interviews of 14 out of 23  participants who accepted to share their personal experiences on the record.

One thing the participants strive to avoid is to produce a report destined to gather dust on library shelves. “They want to create a grass roots development of men teaching men how to be men.”

In order to translate the research findings into practice a new body called “Blokes On Track Aboriginal Corporation” (BOTAC) was created.

They plan to acquire a piece of land through BOTAC where men who are doing it rough can find shelter and while on this land, participants would be given the opportunity to acquire life skills that will set them on the right path to return into their respective communities.

A lot of our men are becoming so much institutionalized, so much that they don’t know how to be free. They don’t know how to be free, and they don’t have a structure.

The project was articulated around listening and sharing. Their understanding of sharing evolved around the sharing of knowledge in a manner that allows men to live and thrive, not just survive.

Ken Lechleitner says with the limited knowledge made available to the men by the system, Aboriginal men are just surviving. “A lot of our men are becoming so much institutionalized, so much that they don’t know how to be free. They don’t know how to be free, and they don’t have a structure.”

From left to right: Robert Springall (CASSE); Pamela Nathan (CASSE); Ken Lechleitner; Dr John Boffa (CAAC); Donna Ah Chee (CAAC) Anne Kantor AO (CAAC) (CASSE)

From left to right: Robert Springall (CASSE), Donna Ah Chee (CAAC), Ken Lechleitner, Dr John Boffa (CAAC), Pamela Nathan (CASSE), Anne Kantor AO (CASSE)

Ken Lechleitner says that a lot of the men he met are proud men who harbour good plans for their wives and children, but they are made to march to a beat.

Participants confided in him that they have good plans but by the time they are out of jail their plans vanish and they find themselves back to square one.

Ken Lechtleiner says ‘It is possible to change the dynamics of where we are heading in a much positive light if we start right now. Otherwise we are forever picking up pieces.’

Interview with Pamela Nathan

Pamela Nathan, Director Aboriginal Australian Relations Program at CASSE says that the Kurruna Mwarre Ingkintja Men’s project is essentially a community determined project.

She says that the project’s most important component is the “Talking Powerfully from the Heart“, a compilation of interviews of 14, out of the 23 participants who agreed to put their interviews publicly on the record.

Pamela Nathan says ‘They speak very strongly and powerfully. They say things like we’ve been victims and witnesses; a fact that is often forgotten because men are readily identified as perpetrators only.

They (the men) talked about the fact that they hide their feelings. They report that they hurt, they have pain and they suffer. They talked about feeling degraded and scorned, racially discriminated against, disempowered, lost, devalued, unrecognized and a lot more.

‘They talked about how much they need a place to be able to straighten up, and heal essentially and to be able to take their lives forward into the world.’

She also believes that participants were able to open up thanks to Ken Lecthleiner because he is a cultural man who was very sensitive to the men’s needs and established a powerful rapport with them.

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